Sunday, December 4, 2011

Is West bias vs. China a great way to unite Chinese for more nationalism now in age of affluence?

West bias and insults vs. China on Tibet and other issues, are these great opportunities to encourage Chinese nationalism tom unprecedented levels? also Chinese national unity? West insults, are these great opportunities so that Chinese peoples worldwide don't forget the Opium Wars and other Western blood debts of history in this era of growing economic affluence so that Chinese won't grow effete spiritually and be morally decadent like the godless West?|||extreme Nationalism has never been a positive thing for China, I suggest that China take the high road and have an open mind and door, listen carefully and if in fact they have not been wrong it will make China look even better, remember the truth always comes to the surface|||Don't forget the cultural revolution that murdered millions in China in 1966 by that communist trash Mao.|||@Celtic - before you start criticising our leaders, why don't you look at some of the trash capitalist leaders have inflicted upon China?





Not much, you know - Opium War, the rape of Nanking, the Group of 8 invasion by European countries into China, etc etc. Just enough to destablise China for quite a few decades, that's all!!





@MrHexVision





1) I never said Nanking was of Western doing. If you read my post without the assumptions, you'll see I said capitalist, not capitalist west.





2) I know the west fought on China's side. But at that time - almost everyone was fighting against Germany. Big deal.





3) Not lucky for us at all. Japan almost brought China to the brink of death and exhaustion. That's lucky?





4) I never said China was perfect. I would be the first to say its faults. We've had this discussion before and you know it. My post was in response to Celticbloodwarrior's ridicoulous sentence.





5) I've unblocked you but you still can't read my Q%26amp;As as they are private.





@MrHexVision - I don't care if you were or were not talking to me, but I was responding to what you said.





6) - you got the impression the asker was linking Nanking to the west? The asker never even mentioned Nanking.





7) and please don't make the US sound like a saint to China. If Japan didn't attack the US, the US wouldn't have cared what happened to China.|||You need a hug...|||Yes, it is a blessing in disguise. Chinese people have never been so united.|||The bias is obvious . There is even news blackout on Olympic torch relay running soomthly on other countries. Neither do we see China protest going on right now.|||You find that every country has done bad things in its past.


Nanking was not of Western doing.





We also fought on China's side in WWII it may not had but


right the things we did in the past say "the Opium Wars"





We should had easy said ok let Japan rule China. Luckily for


you, Japan got greedily and attacked the USA.





Even so China has had its wars in the last 100 years, Sino-Indian, Sino-Vietnamese wars and other boarder conflicts. Funding of other wars through suppling arms or troops or other goods. If we want to really get funny.





Check out





http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_toll





You will see that even China itself has shed its fair amoult of


blood down the ages.





@Lighthouse who said I was talking to you, the answer has "the Opium wars and other Western blood debts" quoted in this question. I think its only far I can answer his question.





As for Japan, if Japan did not attack the USA would China had been able to save itself?





I know full well that you said but you think my answer was directed at you because you wrote.





1) I never said Nanking was of Western doing. If you read my post without the assumptions, you'll see I said capitalist, not capitalist west.





I never said that you said that Nanking was of Western doing, but I got the impression that the asker was linking this with what the west had done.





Edit: I disguse with you, it seems from the 1937 western views changed from pro-japanese to anit- Japanese if I recall the USA was trying to solve it through diplomatic methods.





Taken from wiki......


In addition, the United States, Britain and the Netherlands East Indies began oil and/or steel embargos. The loss of oil imports made it impossible for Japan to continue operations in China. This set the stage for Japan to launch a series of military attacks on the western Allies on December 8, 1941 (December 7 in U.S. time zones), such as the raid on Pearl Harbor.





Don't worry I don't like the USA either..... I was giving an example of a blood debt that was not Western.|||Not necessarily - it's more so unity under a front of western biased attacks..





to say so would be like saying the US uniting under criticism for, say, failing to really take loud action in Darfur or such.








@whatever w: feel free to speak your view, but there is no room for racism here. kindly do not generalize and refer to all chinese peoples as "immature"...are you any better?|||i just heard there were more than ten thousands Chinese protesting unfair western media in France on 4/19 and CNN hasn't reported this news at all.|||i saw those immature chinese people demonstrating on TV.


That was ridiculous?|||No matter how big and how strong China may become, I don't believe it will pose a threat to the world peace.|||Chinese people are getting together already and are seen they are good at doing streets demonstrations. And also good at creating anti-something sites.


But I wonder why they don't creat secret teams or political teams and beat their brains for diplomacy and lobbying activities, and try to achieve the goal together. Politicians are repeating same phrases every time.


The activity like demonstrations is just a cosmetic measure and won't be a fundamental solution. Demonstration is not a team working, but just a assembled mass.





Team working as a project works.





"A samurai had three sons. In one instance, the father samurai handed each of his sons an arrow and asked each snap it. After each snapped his arrow, the father samurai bind three arrows up and asked his sons to snap all three at once. When they were unable to do so, he explained that one arrow could be broken easily, but three arrows held together could not."

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